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Millenium File

Postby bernardhowell » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:01 pm

During my researches on the "Ancestry" site I have found information into the Mid 17C, very exciting. This information has come from the Millenium File, a source I am not familiar with. I know that primary sources i.e. parish registers are the preferred source but this information seems to come from Parish register transcriptions anyway.
My question is can anyone put my mind at rest as to the validity and accuracy of this source? it seems to originate from the LDS archive.
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Re: Millenium File

Postby sdup26 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:42 pm

The Millennium File is a user-supplied database created by the Institute of Family Research; as a resource, it's along the lines of ancestry's World Tree. Treat it with great caution. If you find something that could relate to your own family, double-check using primary sources to verify the information.
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Re: Millenium File

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:24 am

The dreadful habit that many of these concocted secondary sources and research fall into is, in the research part, to assume "Same name, same person". And to add in estimated events guessed from people's ages.

I have no idea how much of the Millennium File is which, but rest assured that there are no magic sources that you're missing.

Use these things as hints - always follow up the suggested events in primary sources like parish registers and if you can't find them in those registers, well that's probably because they're guesses.

A quick check should be to find the corresponding events in the IGI's extracted parish records. If they aren't in the LDS's own sources, it's fairly clear that they're guesses. Even if they are there you should check the originals - people do make mistakes.

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Re: Millenium File

Postby AdrianB38 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:06 am

Just to add to SDUP's comments - if you Google the MF, you get all sorts of similar warnings. The Institute no longer exists and hasn't for an unknown number of years so its qualifications are unknown. The records include stuff submitted by its clients, without sources, so could include people's guesses. And a further red flag - it was particularly interested in documenting links to royalty - a reason for fantasy creation if ever there was one.

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Re: Millenium File

Postby bernardhowell » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:25 am

Many thanks to Adrian and sdup for their sobering replies. I half suspected that would be the case especially in the case of the search for royal ancestry. I will treat the information purely as hints and as suggested try for the primary source in the PRs. I shouldn't have too much trouble as they are in Huntingdonshire, so not too far for me to visit.
Many thanks once again for your timely advice and thoughts.
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Re: Millenium File

Postby Artognou » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:12 pm

Ah, the millennium file, when I first began my research and was extremely inexperienced at what I was doing, I made the mistake of taking these god awful things as verbatim, it didn't take me long to see that these things have been used to further some people's fantasies in a genealogical sense.

I quickly found them infuriating, I recall seeing some that had evidently been doctored and were placing nobility from Britain as having been born in American states at a time when it had barely even been discovered.

As everyone has stated above, make sure you consult OPRs, that should be your first port of call, I don't think the millennium files should be considered worthy at all when it comes to research.
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Re: Millenium File

Postby royengle » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:32 pm

In 1980 I worked for IFR on their computer data file. Phil McMullin was the CEO of IFR. He was a visionary ahead of his time. He hired Phil Gowans to create a computer program to store genealogical data and then create Pedigrees, Family, and Decendancy charts with the computer automation. His data came from client's genealogy,hired researcher, and LDS Family Group Records. At that time there was .38 million individuals. I was their Lineage Specialist. Phil then created the Who Am I Library for 6 months in June 1980. I showed the LDS Church's Family History managers (Steve Kendahl) how we created Computerized Genealogical Services. Steve then submitted the Ancestral File project and the Apple version of PAF Personal Ancestral File. Sadly 6 months later the WhoAmI company was bankrupted by the high computer costs. The Database was sold to American Heritage, and others. What they added to it I cannot say. It is not an authoritative file, but a resource file of good research and compiled secondary sources. I later became a QA Analyst for the LDS FamilySearch Ancestral File and PAF4-5.
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Re: Millenium File

Postby royengle » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:54 am

From 1975 to 1980, Michel L. Call created the Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Library. He hired me Eldean Roy Engle, as another lineage specialist to assist compiling pedigrees from Mormon Pioneers back to 1500. We used the LDS Family Group Records to create and evaluate the lineages. Michel also used scholarly reviews to the process. By hand linking every name, family, and branch--our database was more reliable than the IFR's. Michel personally evaluated over 500 New England's gateway ancestors that had Royal connections with Europe. Michel also published the Royal Ancestors Bible of pedigree charts. It's the best compilation of royal ancestry. He sold some copies of the MPGL to many Genealogical Libraries, but not to the LDS Church. Sadly, FamilySearch could have benefited by using MPGL as the base for their Ancestral File for their Mormon pioneer ancestry and royalty. But false pride from their managers, like Steven Kendahl kept it from happening. When I was hired 1990 by LDS Family History, Ancestral File was a mess--from 1992 to 1998 I tried to improve it, but their Automated Match/Merge was thrashing the Gateway families born about 1600 to 1700. And they had to stop accepting Royal Ancestry before 1500 too. So what got in first was fragmented and error prone. Sadly, what happened to the Ancestral File after 1998 was a tragedy. CEO Jay Verkler destroyed it for 10 years. I was terminated in Jan 2004! The replacement LDS FamilySearch--Family Trees (2010 Ron Tanner AF Product manager), based on the wiki approach to allowing everyone to correct the old Ancesral File data finally is getting the work repaired. Ron had the same vision I had for AF, God bless Ron Tanner!
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