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John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:52 pm

Dear All,

I am trying trace descendants of my great-uncle, John Rodney Ivory. He was born in Hertfordshire in 1903 and emigrated to Australia in January 1924. We knew him as Uncle Rodney. He came to visit in the 1970s. By this time, he was a sugar cane farmer. There was an article in one of the local papers about him called "The Sugar Granddaddy" but I don't have a copy of this.

In July 1928 he married Constance Ursula Clough in Queensland. She had left England in May 1928. I don't know how they met, however I assume they were engaged when she left England as they married so soon after her arrival in Australia. Her occupation was listed as teacher on the Outward Passenger Lists. There is a family rumour that my grandma, Uncle Rodney's younger sister, was a teacher so perhaps my grandma somehow introduced them.

Uncle Rodney and his wife had three children: Rodney John Ivory, born about 1929; Constance Edith Ivory, born about 1930; and Adrian Colin Ivory, born in March 1944. Years of birth for the children are estimated based on my great-grandfather, Isaac Ivory's will.

According to Australian Electoral Rolls, I believe that Rodney John Ivory married Angela (possibly Castelanelli) some time around 1950.

Based on information from my great-grandfather's will, I believe that Constance Edith Ivory married a Mr Liston some time between September 1950 and late 1953.

According to Australian Electoral Rolls, I believe that Adrian Colin Ivory married Diana Gloria (unknown surname) some time around 1968.

Uncle Rodney died in Queensland in 1985. His wife, Constance Ursula, died the following year.

I was wondering if anyone knows how I can trace my second and third cousins in Australia using family history sources.

Any advice or knowledge of this family would be much appreciated.

Thanks for reading this,

Katherine
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby meekhcs » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:49 pm

Dear Katherine
Have you considered making a similar post on the Australian board of Rootschat? I received tremendous help from members of the New Zealand board.
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:06 pm

Hello Sally,

No I hadn't. Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out and let you know how I get on.

I have done a bit more checking into Constance Ursula Clough. It looks like her parents separated as both claimed to be widowed in the 1911 Census. In 1911, she was living in Essex with her mother and sister. Her mother was a head teacher working for Essex County Council.

I found a marriage record for her sister in Hitchin District in 1929, the same registration district as Kimpton, where my grandma's family lived. This is the first clue that places anyone in Constance's family in Hertfordshire. I managed to find this via the probate calendar record for Constance's mother.

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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:21 pm

I have just been lucky enough to find a newspaper article from 1916 on FindMyPast that names a Mrs Clough as headmistress of Sacombe school. It describes a production of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" in which a Miss C. Clough plays Bottom. Mrs Clough plays Egeus and Quince the carpenter. Flute, the bellows mender, is played by Miss A. Clough.

Sacombe is about 12 miles from Kimpton.

This places the Clough family in Hertfordshire earlier than I had previously discovered and would allow for Constance to have known my great-uncle before he left for Australia.
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:53 pm

I have just found Edith Annie Clough's Teacher Registration Certificate on FindMyPast. Edith was the mother of Constance Ursula Clough who was my great-aunt by marriage.

Edith was head mistress of Sacombe C.E. School from 1915 until 1920.

From 1920 until her retirement, Edith was headmistress of Peters Green C.E. School. Peters Green is part of the parish of Kimpton and, according to my mum, is the school my grandma taught at although I have not found any records that prove this yet.

So at least now I have a much better idea of how my great-uncle, a Hertfordshire farmer, came to meet a girl from Liverpool in the 1920s.
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby Sylcec » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:34 am

I know this doesn't move you forward because the papers on Trove only go up to about 1954, but I spotted this notice in the Morning Bulletin, Rockhampton 20 Nov 1930
TRESPASS NOTICE.
HUNTER'S FARM, GLENMORE.
NOTICE is hereby given that anyone trespassing on the above property will be prosecuted without respect to persons.
(Signed) JOHN RODNEY IVORY.

And how do you like this from Townsville Daily Bulletin 5 Nov 1953:
"Assault Charge At Ayr AYR, November 4.-James Lionel Hewson, 22 years, farm labourer of Jarvisfield, appeared in the Ayr Court of Petty Sessions on a charge of assaulting Rodney John Ivory, farmer. It was stated in Court that the assault arose as a result of an incident at Sal heim Camp where Ivory was a sergeant tn the C.M.F. and had occasion to reprimand a private named Paterson who was a friend of Hewson's. The assault occurred op- posite the Caledonian Hall in Ayr on September 13. It was also stated in Court that the Army authorities had learned of the incident and took a very serious view of the matter. Hewson, who was repre- sented in Court by Mr. R. J. Ruddy (solicitor) pleaded guilty to the charge and was convicted and fined £8 with 10/- costs. Mr. Ruddy Informed the Bench that defendant Hew- son would pay damages in- curred by Ivory which it was stated amounted to £8/5/-, including fees for specialist treatment in Townsville for an injured eye."

You can enjoy searching the Qld papers on [url]trove.nla.gov.au[/url]
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby Sylcec » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:42 am

Through a rather obscure and possibly untrustworthy link, have discovered that an Adrian Colin Ivory is a director of this company:
Dimmac Pty Ltd
140 Maidavale Rd
Ayr
QLD 4807
Phone: (07) 4783 2503
Category: Sugarcane and Sugar Beets
At least the location and business type fits.
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby Sylcec » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:49 am

There is also the Australian phone book: http://www.whitepages.com.au which includes a listing for a C Ivory in Ayr - many people are now ex-directory. You may need to do research the old fashioned way and write a letter snail mail!
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:11 am

Hell Sylvia,

Thank you very much for all the info. That's the kind of thing I was interested in. Could you let me know what the CMF is please? Is the MF "Mounted Force" or am I on the wrong track with that?

My mum has also said that she thinks Uncle Rodney visited relatives in England in late Summer 1974. This does sound right because I do remember reading the newspaper report and I think it said it was the first time he had returned to England since leaving 50 years earlier. I think I may have a copy of the report but have no idea where it is.

Thanks again,

Katherine
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Re: John Rodney Ivory - Queensland

Postby ksouthall » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:14 am

p.s. Sylvia I've just googled Dimmac Pty Ltd and noticed that it is close to "Ivory Road".
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