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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ColinB » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:56 pm

I think I may have found Christopher's military record.

Christopher SENTERS born Wigan , aged 20 , enlisted 6 Nov 1799 at Wigan for the Royal Artillery , signing for unlimited service but discharged in 1818 , declared unfit for further service. The record notes service at Waterloo but he cannot be found on the Medal Roll. Interestingly the record mentions payment of 21 days marching money at 6d per day for himself , 11/2 d a day for his wife and 1d per mile for 208 miles for each of his 5 children !

Still can't find any military birth records for the children .
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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby AdrianB38 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:00 pm

Wigan and Santus are of course (?) connected via "Uncle Joe's Mintballs" that keep you all aglow. Travellers on the railway will be familiar with that sign. Though apparently the confectionary company was not founded until late on in the 1800s.

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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ColinB » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:29 pm

Rather than edit my post again I can confirm that Christopher is on the Waterloo Medal Roll - I got a tad confused ! He is listed as Christr Senters , Gunner , 3rd Battalion Royal Artillery.

A senior moment got the better of me!

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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ksouthall » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:55 pm

Good spot of the military record Colin. It's likely that Christopher, James and Edward are connected somehow, however if Christopher Santus was born in Wigan in about 1779, it will be difficult to find out exactly how without copies of all the records.

Christopher's children seem to be:-

John b. 1802 in Devonport.
Christopher b. 1810 - 4th son of Christopher Santus.
William Santus b. 1820 - 6th son of Christopher Santus.
Elizabeth Santus b. 1825 - 3rd daughter of Christopher Santus.

If James was born in 1814 and Edward was born in 1817, that would make William more than the 6th son of Christopher, unless there is a mistake on the baptism record.

There was an Ann Santus who could have been one of Christopher's daughters. (See previous post which refers to a baptism record.)

Is it possible Christopher or Mary left a will?
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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ColinB » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:18 pm

'There is a possible marriage for Edward Santus and Alice Blacklege on 22nd December 1855 at St George's Church in Wigan. '

Ancestry has the registers covering this marriage - unfortunately there is no father's name - just "deceased".

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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ksouthall » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:29 pm

ColinB wrote:'There is a possible marriage for Edward Santus and Alice Blacklege on 22nd December 1855 at St George's Church in Wigan. '

Ancestry has the registers covering this marriage - unfortunately there is no father's name - just "deceased".

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Thanks Colin. Just found this - I was looking on FindMyPast. This is all very frustrating.....I wonder if there are any records that link either James or Edward to their father/s?
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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby ksouthall » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 pm

There seems to have been another couple, William and Mary Santus, having children in the early 19th Century in Wigan. They appear to have had the following children:-

Mary baptised 1803.
Ann baptised 1805.
Alice baptised 1807.
Mary baptised 1809.
William baptised 1813.
Mary baptised 1816.

A William Santus of Schofield Lane was buried on 5th January 1844, aged 67. He was born around 1777. Mary, wife of William Santus, was buried on 18th December 1826 aged 50. She was born around 1776.

Alice Santus gave birth to a base born daughter, Mary, in 1825. She also had a son, Isaac, who was buried on 9th March 1823, aged 2 months.

Ann Santus appears to have had at least 3 illegitimate children:-
William b. 1831
Mary b. 1836
James b. 1844

A Christopher Santus of Scholes was buried on 29th August 1824, aged 80, of decay. He was born around 1744. Alice, wife of Christopher Santus, was buried on 28th November 1816, aged 73 of weakness. She was born around 1743.

I am guessing that Christopher and Alice were the parents of Christopher and William Santus, however this would need to be proved.

An Alexander Santus was buried on 2nd September 1834, aged 42 of weakness. He was born around 1792. I have no idea how he might fit in.
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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby Phizz » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:04 pm

Thank you all very much for all the information given. I did find the places of birth on all the census but could find no baptism for either James or Edward. I assumed they could be brothers simply because of the places of birth. The 1841 census gives no relationships but the baptisms at All Saints look like a lead which I shall follow up. I have tried all variations of Santus without success. I shall study all the replies sent to me thoroughly. Thankyou all again. Phizz
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Re: Santus France 1817

Postby Phizz » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:36 pm

I have studied all the postings which have really thrilled me as it seems I may be getting somewhere at last. I see that census don't always give the correct place of birth but they all say that Edward was born France a British Subject. I have the marriage cert of Edward and Alice Blackledge and the space for the father does just say deceased. The three children of Edward and Alice were registered under the name Blackledge but were married under the name Santus. I have seen so many variations in the spelling that is does seem Colin that the Christopher Senters on the medal roll is the one I am looking for. I have also found an Alice born Falmouth 1804 daughter of Christopher Santus and Mary Marsh which I suppose could tie in with a soldier having to move around. I am glad KS that you verified that families often travelled with the soldiers even to France. I have more info I can research now, thanks to you all.
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