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James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby penrex » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:43 am

James Carter came to New Zealand, on his own, about 1882. He was born 12 Jan 1861 London ? On his marriage certificate he has his parents as William James Carter & Sabina Jenkins. He married in NZ. The first record I can find of him in NZ is the 1885 electoral roll.
I am unable to find any record of his birth or anything about his parents.
I recently found a William & Sabina Carter mentioned in "Bury & Norwich Post" in 1892 but are unable to find them on any census, or marriage records.
Among James Carters things were two photos, one of a middle aged lady M. Cartwright and another of a middle aged man G. French.
These photos were taken in London 1860's - 1870's.
Does anyone Know of this family. The lack of info. on James Carter is leaving a big hole in my tree.
I have searched all BMD records, census etc. He never spoke of his family. Any suggestions? I'm desperate.
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James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby coopernicola » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:07 pm

This may be a red herring but if you look for Sabina, as it's an unusual name, you will find:
1881 census 1 Trent terrace, Trent st, Nottingham
William 39 - railway engine driver
Sabina 40
William J 18 - perhaps your James
Charles R 10
Arthur 5
Frederick 3
William 63 - father, also working on railway

Going forward you can find Sabina as a widow from 1891 - 1911 still in Nottingham with various children as above

Looking at 1871 finally found Salina (not Sabina) also in Nottingham
William 29 - railway engine driver
Salina 30
William J 8
Charles 1 month

It's likely the same family all the way but whether they're yours I'm not sure.

I didn't find a marriage between William Carter & Sabina Jenkins, but did find one for William & Sabina Ross (FreeBMD Radford Q1 7b 182). This ties in with the above family as Charles R is listed as Charles Ross in 1911.
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Re: James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby Jon Bauckham » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:54 am

Moving this to the General Research Queries area
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Re: James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby callbrian » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:33 pm

I haven't found the matching spouse yet but...there is a Sabina Jenkins marriage for 1840 in Pontypool.
This could also be a bit of a red herring.
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Re: James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby penrex » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:31 am

Thank you for your help.
I have looked at all the options suggested but none seem to fit. James Henry Carter is a source of great "angst" for me. If he came to NZ and, as said, never spoke of his family, maybe he had changed his name! I belong to ancestry, so have searched all their records, as well as other sources available online. He is a mystery. He named his first daughter, Sabina, so it seems likely that was his mothers name. His fathers occupation, on his marriage cert., is gentleman. Maybe his mother was the parlour maid!
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Re: James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby Serviceville » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:49 am

This may help you with your search
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Re: James Henry Carter b 1861, England

Postby Cartercarter » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:27 pm

Believe I have found your James Carter in the middle of the Pacific. Convicted in NZ left country!
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