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Samuel Harris, Private 23510 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusiliers

Postby ColleenT » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:01 pm

Samuel was born at Naas, Co. Kildare on 23 March, 1883 and died on 7th October 1918.

The place and cause of death are my problem. Ancestry simply says 'died'.

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Samuel Harris
Name: Samuel Harris
Birth Place: Naas, Co. Kildare
Death Date: 7 Oct 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Naas
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 23510
Type of Casualty: Died
Theater of War: Western European Theatre
(Ancestry)

CWGC has it like this:

Name: HARRIS, SAMUEL
Initials: S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 07/10/1918
Service No: 23510
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 9. 46.
Cemetery: NAAS (ST. CORBAN'S) CATHOLIC CEMETERY
CWGC

I now have his death certificate (having seen him listed in the Irish deaths) and there he is aged 31 and died at the Naas Military Hospital at the Barracks, of heart disease!

How do I record this death? Was he sent home with wounds and subsequently died of a heart attack?

Any help appreciate, thank you.
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Re: Samuel Harris, Private 23510 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusil

Postby junkers » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:16 pm

Have you looked at his medal card at The National Archives (TNA), Kew (WO 372/9/43322), it is free to look at it at TNA or for a small cost for the online copy.
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Re: Samuel Harris, Private 23510 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusil

Postby Sylcec » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:35 pm

Not sure what happened here - I typed a reply, and uploaded an image of the MIC but nothing has appeared! Will try again and apologies for double entry if that's what happens.

I understand your confusion about Samuel's death - however as you have a certificate which shows he died in hospital in his home town an is buried there than I think that must be the facts. Although one of the causative factors of his heart disease must have been his service in the trenches in France in WWI, this could well have lead to a virus attacking his heart muscle, and he may have had an underlying heart valve weakness, I think if he was suffering shrapnel or gunshot wounds for instance the death cert would have stated this.
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Re: Samuel Harris, Private 23510 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusil

Postby junkers » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:50 pm

It might be useful to check the War Diary in series WO 95 at The National Archives as it might say something, but clearly he did not die in France and Flanders.
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Re: Samuel Harris, Private 23510 1st Batt Royal Dublin Fusil

Postby ColleenT » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:29 pm

Thanks to all who have helped. I had his medal card (thanks anyway) and thank you for clarifying his death details.

Regards, CT
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