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1861 Census Help!

Postby Lusby84 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:32 pm

Hi,
I am hoping someone can help. I have been trying to locate my Harper ancestors in Portsea on the 1861 census. But can not find them anywhere.

William Harper born 1827 Portsea
Caroline Harper (nee Ferbrache/Fertrache/Fairbrache) born 1829 St Helier, Jersey
(They married 1 Feb 1854 Portsea)

Children born before 1861:
Caroline Harper born 1854
Eliza Harper born 1856
William Harper born 1857
Clara Harper born 1859

Also expecting to find Daniel Ferbrache/Fertrache born ~1806 St Helier, Jersey (William’s Father in Law) as he is also nowhere to be found in 1861 but is with the Harper’s in 1871. He is a carpenter. In 1851 he is located at Queen Street, St Helier, Jersey.

Residence on baptism records of Eliza and William state: Northam Street.
Electoral registers for 1861 has William at 65 Northam Street as does 1871 census.
1851 census has William living at Church Path (which is in same vicinity as Northam Street) he is a Labourer for Dockyard.

I have done an address search for Northam Street on 1861 census but no luck - address doesn’t appear on results.
Have also tried North* in the search and been through similar address names - no luck.!
Have tried name variations, searched different locations, various different combinations etc etc

Does anyone know if Northam Street, Portsea happens to be missing from 1861 census? I have contacted Winchester Archives asking if it’s missing as far as they know it’s not.

Any help locating them would be appreciated. I am stumped at how else to search for them.


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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby MoVidger » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:57 pm

So far the highest address number I've found is 42 Northam Street. Record on Ancestry.

1861 census
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 225
Piece: 640
Folio: 188
Page Number: 40
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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby ianbee » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:08 pm

Historical Streets Project has Northam Street in Porstea Island RD, piece 640, folios 186-190
https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov ... _Index_M-O

When I key those references into findmypast's 1861 census search page I get zero results. They are on ancestry (as Mo has demonstrated!)
Images can also be seen on FamilySearch. Enumeration district description is on image 343
It may not be all of Northam Street, because it's numbers 6-42, 1-37 on those folios.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=526727
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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby junkers » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:23 pm

The National Archives catalogue says that RG 9/640 "Missing pages: Enumeration district 8: 41-44 (96 persons); Enumeration district 9: [15-16 (fragments) see RG 9/641, folio 194], 17-26, 29-34 (end) (405 persons)" and also that the document is in poor condition. Incidentally the record office for the Portsmouth area is Portsmouth Central Library, Hampshire is one of the counties that has more than one record office, Portsmouth used to have one!.
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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby ianbee » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:41 pm

Well found. Moral of the story - always check the page numbers!
We know the folio numbers were stamped on in more modern times (presumably by the PRO, now TNA)
We are indeed looking at enumeration district 8
Folio 188 page 40 ends with number 42 Northam Street
Next image is folio 189 page 45 , which has a continued household, then it's number 37 Northam Street. Presumably the continued household is number 39.
Yes, higher numbers of Northam Street missing. Very sad.
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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby junkers » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:44 pm

Yes the PRO did stamp the page number on one side of the page.
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Re: 1861 Census Help!

Postby Lusby84 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:09 pm

Thank you everyone. I feared it was missing pages. That’s a shame. Really appreciate your efforts.

Have learnt some new things from your reply’s though - didn’t know about the Streets Project so will look at that abit more. Thanks.


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