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Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby kaytee » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:15 pm

I was wondering if anyone could identify this chap's uniform. Sorry – it's not a very good image, it's been taken from a larger wedding photo. It dates from 1928 and I'm not sure if it's police or military.
I'd be grateful for any help!
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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby Jethro Tull » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:22 am

Hi Kaytee,
I cannot be sure as the pic is quite unclear but I think the collar tabs are for the Royal Artillery, the lanyard too makes me think this is the artillery. In the larger pic is there anymore of the uniform or a cap showing at all? Hope it helps.
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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby MaureenE » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:45 am

If in fact he was in the Royal Artillery, and assuming you know his name, you would expect to find a record for him on findmypast in a dataset called "Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942" (category Armed forces & conflict/Regimental & service records) which, in practical terms consists of those in the Royal Artillery from about 1920.

These records are taken from Enlistment books (Army Book 358)

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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby AdrianB38 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:56 am

The only note of caution I would add is that the Royal Engineers and the Royal Artillery both had very similar collar badges. Both used flaming grenades.

The flaming grenade is actually a common motif - no surprise that the Grenadier Guards used it. So far as I could see on a quick Google, their collar badges omit the scroll beneath the circle that the RA and RE used, though. The scroll does appear in the photo.

Maureen's pointer to the RA attestation books on FMP is the sensible way forward.

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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby kaytee » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:28 pm

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I'm afraid that no more of his uniform is visible – it's a wedding group photo and he is surrounded by ladies with large hats. I don't actually know who he is but I think he must be a relative as this is my uncle's wedding photo and he is standing next to one of my great aunts so I'm trying to do a bit of detective work. The Royal Artillery suggestion is promising as my uncle's family lived in Woolwich and I know that at least two of them were in the army (although the RAMC rather than RA). Anyway, thanks again for your comments and I will resume my search!
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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby kaytee » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:27 pm

Well, would you know it? I checked out the Royal Artillery attestations as suggested by Maureen – searched for a few likely names from that branch of my family and bingo! It seems that my uncle's cousin (the son of the great aunt that I recognised and who he's standing next to) joined the Royal Artillery in 1923, leaving after WW2 in 1947. Of course, I'll never be fully sure that it's him but until I'm proved wrong... Thanks guys!
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Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby Mick Loney » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:23 am

Purely out of interest, but can someone explain how does the 'DV' collar tag equate to Royal Artillery? Answered my own question, didn't realise the Flaming Grenade was tilted, my poor eyes saw DV :) :)


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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby AdrianB38 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:38 am

Well, DV would indeed be a bit of a push to equate to the RA - but it's not. The first time I saw this, that's actually exactly what I thought it was - the letters DV.

You have to turn your eye about 90° and "read" it that way when what you should see is the flaming grenade badge - a round circle, flames coming out of the top, and a scroll underneath. If you look at the right hand badge, it's running bottom left to top right.

It may help to magnify the image.

It *is* a weird optical effect.

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Re: Help with identifying uniform (1928)

Postby Mick Loney » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:51 am

Adrian,
Thanks, our posts crossed each other. As you see, I'd already realised my error:)


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