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E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby goldcoastwestie » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:52 pm

Just thought I would share with you.

I have come across on the Isle of Wight FHS site that there is an e-petition to get the 1921 census released early. Due to the fact that the 1931 was destroyed and there was no census of 1941.

As I am a new member it will not allow me to enter a website URL so if you go to the epetitions (dot) direct (dot) gov (dot) uk and search for petition 1921 census you should find it.
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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby Editor » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:45 am

Thanks goldcoastwestie! I think legislation was tighter for the 1921 census than for 1911 so it's fairly unlikely that we'll see it early - but what a bonus if we could!

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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby vnolan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:48 pm

I agree, as it would certainly help me as I have been unable to find out what my grandparents were doing between 1911 and 1932 when they got married.
I will go and have a look at the petition.
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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby pete25 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:30 am

I've signed the petition, so let's hope we can get this 1921 census in the public arena.
Thanks for letting us know about this petition.


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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby AdrianB38 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:34 pm

Not sure on this but Google seems to suggest this is at least the 3rd petition on this topic.

http://www.1911census.org.uk/petition.htm mentions one such (in 2007?) which attracted 23,600 names. It was rejected by the UK government "in particular arguing that to release the information earlier would undermine public confidence in the privacy of information which people would be asked to provide in future censuses."

Personally, I do not agree with the proposal. The vast majority of us do not need the 1921 to sort out our ancestors. Sure, it would be nice to know exactly which street grandpa lived on in 1921, but I can find the full list from the electoral registers, not just 1921. It seems to me that most new information from the 1921 will be about more distant relatives, people who are not our ancestors but are someone else's. As family historians we need to be mindful that others out there see our activities as unwarranted intrusion, and this enquiring into someone else's living ancestors, in flagrant disregard of the promises made at the time (that's how it will be presented), is risking our reputation for being careful of privacy. We should think of the nonsense about the SSDI in the USA, where access to later records has been curtailed despite all the logic being that the measures implemented will increase identity theft. That sort of attitude will almost certainly come our way soon and asking the government to go back on its word (or what everyone thinks its word was) will stack the deck against us. For no good reason.
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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby Chiny » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:26 am

I'm with AdrianB38 on this one. Additionally the e-petition has no logic to it - why does a delay to the next available census mean another should be released early ? It's not that long until 2022; we can wait.

The 1921 census is starting to tread on the data of friends of mine, and not that removed from my parents. I doubt they would be keen on this proposal. Fortunately it appears to have negligible support.



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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby pbutt » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:33 pm

I agree that we should wait but am wondering what extra questions were asked in info gathering at the time? I would not want mine or my relative's info given out before time and there are other resources available for that period to search.
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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby CJR » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:27 pm

I have to agree with AdrianB38 and Chiny on this. We moan and groan if the government of the day go back on promises they have made. Signing this petition is giving them licence to do so whenever it suits and we won't be able to complain

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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby ksouthall » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:36 pm

pbutt wrote:I agree that we should wait but am wondering what extra questions were asked in info gathering at the time?


The 1921 Census for England, Wales and Scotland was taken on the night of Sunday 19th June 1921.

It had been originally planned that the census would be taken on the night of 24th April 1921 but this was delayed because of strikes.

Extra questions asked over the 1911 census included
•whether a marriage has been dissolved by divorce
•where each person works
•the industry within which someone works
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Re: E-petition to get the 1921 census released earlier

Postby pbutt » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:17 am

Thankyou for the Census question info, much appreciated.
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